{"id":986,"date":"2024-12-11T19:57:04","date_gmt":"2024-12-11T19:57:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/planetmacneil.org\/blog\/?p=986"},"modified":"2024-12-11T19:57:04","modified_gmt":"2024-12-11T19:57:04","slug":"understanding-romans-13-parts-1-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/planetmacneil.org\/blog\/understanding-romans-13-parts-1-5\/","title":{"rendered":"Understanding Romans 13 (Parts 1 &ndash; 5)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is the single video version of the series found on my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@mmacneill123\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">YouTube<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/channels\/epistemologicalself\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Vimeo<\/a> channels.<\/p>\n<h2>Episode Timings<\/h2>\n<p><em>Detailed contents and timing for each episode are below.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>00:00:00 Part 1: Context I<br \/>\n00:28:08 Part 2: Context II<br \/>\n00:54:43 Part 3: The Criteria for the Legitimate State and the Legitimate Ruler<br \/>\n02:05:01 Part 4: The Application in the Real World<br \/>\n03:38:44 Part 5: The Relationship of Church and State<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Romans-13-Complete\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/1037613583?dnt=1&amp;app_id=122963\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture; clipboard-write\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h2>Part 1: Context I<\/h2>\n<p>00:00:00 Preamble<br \/>\n00:02:00 The Locus Classicus &#8211; Romans 13:1-7<br \/>\n00:03:33 The surface reading &#8211; unconditional obedience to the State<br \/>\n00:04:30 Monarchs and the Pope &#8211; the Divine Right of Kings<br \/>\n00:17:50 The importance of Romans 13 in our contemporary context<br \/>\n00:19:38 The imperative for civil resistance and disobedience<br \/>\n00:20:12 Dr Martyn Lloyd Jones&#8217; as exegete and expositor<br \/>\n00:22:22 DMLJ&#8217;s commentary on the Romans<br \/>\n00:24:44 The Christian as revolutionary<br \/>\n00:25:48 Catholic and Protestant hegemonies<br \/>\n00:26:41 Roger Williams&#8217; contribution to religious freedom<\/p>\n<h2>Part 2: Context II<\/h2>\n<p>00:00:00 DMLJ on Romans 13 (300 pages), Romans 8 (500 pages)<br \/>\n00:01:54 History of the Problem &#8211; the Munster rebellion<br \/>\n00:02:38 Luther, Zwingli, Calvin, the Anabaptists<br \/>\n00:03:54 Protosocialism, Mennonites, Amish<br \/>\n00:18:10 Genres of biblical literature<br \/>\n00:22:35 The Septuagint and Masoretic Texts<br \/>\n00:23:30 Ceremonial and contemporary language<br \/>\n00:25:00 The human history of the scriptures<\/p>\n<h2>Romans 13 &#8211; Part 3: the criteria for the legitimate State and the legitimate Ruler<\/h2>\n<p>00:00:30 Romans 13, 1-7<br \/>\n00:05:33 A strange intrusion?<br \/>\n00:06:24 The problem of the Jew and Gentile<br \/>\n00:08:16 People getting on with one another in society<br \/>\n00:09:06 &#8220;The Authorities&#8221; and conflicts with, in Acts and the Gospels<br \/>\n00:12:30 Authority and government as God&#8217;s initiative<br \/>\n00:14:15 &#8216;Being subject&#8217; does not mean simply &#8216;to obey&#8217;<br \/>\n00:17:41 Reorientating our attitude to authority &#8211; 1 Tim 2<br \/>\n00:18:40 Interceding for the Authorities<br \/>\n00:21:31 The legimitate coercive function of the State<br \/>\n00:24:30 The distinction between the office and the individual ruler<br \/>\n00:29:45 The criteria for the ruler<br \/>\n00:37:00 The negative function of the State<br \/>\n00:38:51 The positive function of the State<br \/>\n00:39:51 The proper limits of the State<br \/>\n00:44:00 The proper limits of the State &#8211; justice and borders<br \/>\n00:45:11 Dysfunctional States<br \/>\n00:46:00 The State as the means of social peace<br \/>\n00:47:00 Capital punishment<br \/>\n00:50:00 Resisting tyranny &#8211; the conflicts of Paul with tyrannical and unjust States<br \/>\n00:57:39 Your response to the decay of a State &#8211; the record of Acts<br \/>\n00:58:00 Paul&#8217;s response to the illegitimate use of State authority<br \/>\n01:04:37 Judean rulers failed the Romans 13 test<br \/>\n01:06:41 King Agrippa passing the Romans 13 test<br \/>\n01:09:40 The distinction between the office and the individual ruler<\/p>\n<h2>Romans 13 &#8211; Part 4: The application in the real world<\/h2>\n<p>00:01:00 The limits of resistance in response to tyranny<br \/>\n00:15:00 Weak, passive resistance?<br \/>\n00:16:23 The Christian revolutionary<br \/>\n00:18:49 The qualification &#8211; levels of resistance<br \/>\n00:20:00 Issues of religious liberty<br \/>\n00:26:00 Evicting a rotten State<br \/>\n00:27:38 Representational government in scripture<br \/>\n00:32:15 The privilege of suffrage<br \/>\n00:33:00 The quiet and peaceable life<br \/>\n00:36:50 The critical theorists as neo-marxists<br \/>\n00:40:57 What do we mean by a &#8216;Christian nation&#8217;?<br \/>\n00:43:16 Transformation of a nation<br \/>\n00:47:25 The parable of the leaven<br \/>\n00:49:27 The Dispensationalist<br \/>\n00:58:00 The requirement for continuous revival<br \/>\n00:59:40 Defending Postmillennialism<br \/>\n01:03:52 Our natural relations<br \/>\n01:05:00 The relation of the individual Christian to the State and the Church to the State<br \/>\n01:13:47 The breakdown of the Judeo-Christian consensus<br \/>\n01:15:00 The Christian political party<br \/>\n01:19:00 The role of Christian professional societies<br \/>\n01:26:40 The Dominion Mandate<br \/>\n01:29:30 Constantine and the Rise of the Papacy.<\/p>\n<h2>Part 5 &#8211; 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